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Question for all - what happens after death...

Will atheists and theists have the same fate after death?

  • Yes

    Votes: 48 81.4%
  • No

    Votes: 11 18.6%

  • Total voters
    59

ChieftheCef

Well-Known Member
It doesn't matter what you believe now or don't believe. What form of validation do you have that is how atoms came about? Perhaps you can start there. to say that is how plasma condensed from the "Big Bang" is standardly ridiculous. Thank you though for that reply "proving" (not scientifically, of course) that is not only absurd but yes, ridiculous
You will find that only certain ridiculous ideas are actually true, your most sure ideas and decisions wrong most often, that good things are less than they seem and bad things less bad than they seem
 

ChieftheCef

Well-Known Member
I believe that is possible because I set my mind to discovering whether the beliefs and teachings of Christianity were valid or not and found them to lack credibility and accuracy. It didn't really dawn on me that I was still slightly bound to my Christian indoctrination relating to demons until I started reading the current thread about whether they exist or not. After reading about your Baha'i beliefs regarding demons and Satan, as well as speaking with some Wiccan friends of mine, I've realized that it's the last vestige of my Christian indoctrination to die out. Now I'm reevaluating my beliefs about nonhuman entities without considering them demonic in the Christian sense. I think that this new knowledge will give me a better angle if I ever encounter one again.
Knowing the sleep paraylsis demon is all about the psyche is a great example of knowledge is power.
 

ChieftheCef

Well-Known Member
I don't have to go to the park to watch nature, all I have to do is go in my kitchen and look out the window to my deck, where birds and other animals abound!
Eh, ya want nature. You're not getting the full effect, trust me. I've been in nature many times. It's good for the health because it makes you happy. We evolved to be in nature and follow our happiness to her.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Eh, ya want nature. You're not getting the full effect, trust me. I've been in nature many times. It's good for the health because it makes you happy. We evolved to be in nature and follow our happiness to her.
I'd rather be IN nature than only looking out the window at it, but I cannot always do what I want to do so I settle for what I can get at any given time. I do walk a lot in nature but I would prefer to be further out in nature, in the wilderness, in the mountains, at the ocean.... Ah, well, back to reality.
 

ChieftheCef

Well-Known Member
I'd rather be IN nature than only looking out the window at it, but I cannot always do what I want to do so I settle for what I can get at any given time. I do walk a lot in nature but I would prefer to be further out in nature, in the wilderness, in the mountains, at the ocean.... Ah, well, back to reality.
Nature is cool. :)
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
I'd rather be IN nature than only looking out the window at it, but I cannot always do what I want to do so I settle for what I can get at any given time. I do walk a lot in nature but I would prefer to be further out in nature, in the wilderness, in the mountains, at the ocean.... Ah, well, back to reality.

Nature causes me sneeze and makes my eyes water. Nonetheless, I will venture out into it on occasion during the day, but never at night.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Nature causes me sneeze and makes my eyes water. Nonetheless, I will venture out into it on occasion during the day, but never at night.
I don't have any allergies so I guess I'm lucky that way. I always go on walks and when it was really hot I was coming back in the dark. I like walking in the dark, all the night noises. Also, there are very few cars since I live in the country and I never walk on the main road.
 

ChieftheCef

Well-Known Member
where did all the hydrogen come from ?

It formed as matter as the universe cooled. It was a great big blob of good, kinda like Atums cum shot. The Egyptians have a very good personification of how the universe formed. As it cools as well as atoms forming, suns are allowed to form and planets cool. I predict it is viable for life somehow all throughout the a gong of the universes.
From the cooling plasma from the early universe. Sub atomic particles first formed and as the plasma cooled more atoms were able to form
Exactly
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
We don't always get what we want.

True. But without it, there's no rational justification.

The soul is a sign of God so and the nature of the soul can never be known, so how can there be a working definition of the soul?

Then maybe you should stop appealing to, and assuming as fact, things that you can't even define.
What are you even talking about, when talking about undefinable things?

Maybe we should also discuss gooblydockblobo. I can't define it, but it exists, really! You just gotta have faith.


The functions of the soul can be seen in how it manifests itself in the human behavior which is linked to the personality.
Of course that is a religious belief. There is no way to have data about the soul or make testable predictions so proving humans have a soul and how it os connected to human behavior is an impossibility.
You know what can be, and is, tested? The function of the brain and how it manifests in human behavior.
But you prefer assuming magical, undefinable, unverifiable entities to "explain" such things instead

Quotes for obvious reasons... as any assumed entities that can't be defined, verified or otherwise rationally defended have an explanatory power of exactly zero.

My reason to believe in the soul comes from religion.

Yes. Faith. The excuse you can give to believe ANYTHING.


It is not going to come from science since science cannot study immaterial things.

aka non-existent things.

There is more that we don't know. We know the anatomy of the brain but we don't know how the mind functions.

We know a lot more then you are willing to acknowledge.

More will be learned about the brain and mind as time goes on but the nature of the soul is a mystery of God.
And an undefinable, unverifiable, undefendable mystery it will remain.
It will remain faith-based assertion indstinguishable from imagination.
Meanwhile, the function of the brain will indeed be more explained and actual progress wil be made.
 
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