Republican tells Native American to go back where you came from

[gotti]

yeah voter suppression is not a problem.
Neither is employment discrimination
or housing discrimination
its not like our legal system has a built in racial bias

Yes. Those are all problems.

But I've never made the argument that racism and discrimination aren't problems facing society.

 

[Revoltingest]

More strategic than bigoted.

Perhaps it's Trump's best quality, ie, that he
can hate so many groups without bigotry, eh.

 

[Argentbear]

Yes. Those are all problems.

But I've never made the argument that racism and discrimination aren't problems facing society.

The only real problem with protests and civil rights movements of any kind is that - once they've actually achieved their reasonable goals and the movements continue to exist - they go looking for problems where there are no problems

 

[amorphous_constellation]

He has no business or proper right representing America, a country that has been multicultural and multiethnic since before Constitutional Day One. Amd he said this to a Native who has been here way longer than all of American ancestors have.
The outrage is this America, attitudes like that have no place or busimess running the state. Literally, he told someone of a minority who has no immigrant story here in her family history (at least nothing at all comparable to what we non-Natives have) to go back to where she came from.

Here's the deal for me, as being a white mid-westerner: I don't find a lot of happy mediums in my race, and the political spectrum displays a lot of uncertainty about them. The far-right might have them become bitter, judgemental people, who probably often don't have that much intelligence, and I don't think they represent the useful contributions in their culture's history, which surely were not based on bitterness. And the far-left actually has failed to define what it actually wants from white people, besides just adding (often probably justified) criticism, and it probably would go a long way with everyone if they would describe what they should do in positive terms

And what I mean by no 'happy mediums,' is that you know, in the suburbs they don't like you if you aren't rich basically, and there is an obvious culture of conformity, and it doesn't seem like different or creative ideas are really wanted. In poorer white areas, or ones that secluded with a certain kind of predominant culture, it's also going to be something I don't want a part of, because that might be where some of the far-right nonsense comes from. I mean, maybe not in all these places, and maybe there are some great people in the suburbs, but the social landscape is not really.. seeming to be benefiting a certain kind of environment in-between that of the poorer people / secluded people with judgemental beliefs, and that of elite suburbs, and that's what maybe having a bad effect... I don't know, I haven't thought hard enough about all this to know

I don't know. But what I have heard is that we are projected a minority eventually here, so I'm curious what will happen with that. I don't know if we will dissolve, or if that even matters, or if that is for 'the best,' but I don't think the current status quo is going to remain the same. It does seem to be a situation of social dissatisfaction where these topics are involved, and may continue to be, unless the political leadership, and the political writers of our time actually show everyone how all this should balance out

 

[gotti]

The only real problem with protests and civil rights movements of any kind is that - once they've actually achieved their reasonable goals and the movements continue to exist - they go looking for problems where there are no problems

Yes?

That's what I said.

It doesn't nullify my subsequent point.

 

[sun rise]

Much of it is focused though, eg, he doesn't
hate all seniors & Jews...just the ones who'd
vote for Harris.

It's not about me (senior/Jew), it's about Haitians, member of the military who get injured and so forth. Neo-nezi groups have seized on his message of hate to promote hatred of others.

And I don't give a flying **** if he believes it or not. He's promoting it, inciting others to hate and act out violence as we're seeing. That's the essence.

 

[gotti]

Here's the deal for me, as being a white mid-westerner: I don't find a lot of happy mediums in my race, and the political spectrum displays a lot of uncertainty about them. The far-right might have them become bitter, judgemental people, who probably often don't have that much intelligence, and I don't think they represent the useful contributions in their culture's history, which surely were not based on bitterness. And the far-left actually has failed to define what it actually wants from white people, besides just adding (often probably justified) criticism, and it probably would go a long way with everyone if they would describe what they should do in positive terms

And what I mean by no 'happy mediums,' is that you know, in the suburbs they don't like you if you aren't rich basically, and there is an obvious culture of conformity, and it doesn't seem like different or creative ideas are really wanted. In poorer white areas, or ones that secluded with a certain kind of predominant culture, it's also going to be something I don't want a part of, because that might be where some of the far-right nonsense comes from. I mean, maybe not in all these places, and maybe there are some great people in the suburbs, but the social landscape is not really.. seeming to be benefiting a certain kind of environment in-between that of the poorer people / secluded people with judgemental beliefs, and that of elite suburbs, and that's what maybe having a bad effect... I don't know, I haven't thought hard enough about all this to know

I don't know. But what I have heard is that we are projected a minority eventually here, so I'm curious what will happen with that. I don't know if we will dissolve, or if that even matters, or if that is for 'the best,' but I don't think the current status quo is going to remain the same. It does seem to be a situation of social dissatisfaction where these topics are involved, and may continue to be, unless the political leadership, and the political writers of our time actually show everyone how all this should balance out

Post of the thread.

 

[Revoltingest]

It's not about me (senior/Jew), it's about Haitians, member of the military who get injured and so forth. Neo-nezi groups have seized on his message of hate to promote hatred of others.

And I don't give a flying **** if he believes it or not. He's promoting it, inciting others to hate and act out violence as we're seeing. That's the essence.

Missing the sarcasm again, eh.

 

[Colt]

What has China to do with this?

Native Americans didn’t grow on trees in North America, they came across the Bering Straight from Asia. It’s one of those factual joke kind of posts.

 

[Revoltingest]

Native Americans didn’t grow on trees in North America, they came across the Bering Straight from Asia. It’s one of those factual joke kind of posts.

There were no Chinese then.
It's a factual thing.

 

[gotti]

Native Americans didn’t grow on trees in North America, they came across the Bering Straight from Asia. It’s one of those factual joke kind of posts.

That's what makes outrage over something like this so ridiculous.

 

[InChrist]

Yup, Idaho is where Aryan Nations had their big compound.

Not there anymore, though, because the regular people of Idaho didn’t put up with the Aryan nation mentality.

 

[InChrist]

That doesn't even address the point. This Rep bunghole told a Native to back from where she came from. He's such an ignoramus he doesn't realize she is very much indeed where she came from, more so than his imbicilic hide.

Exactly

 

[InChrist]

Idaho is the skinhead capital of the USA. Not surprised

No, it’s not. The skinheads who tried to get established in Idaho ( and didn’t succeed BTW) originally moved there from Los Angeles, CA.

 

[gotti]

Not there anymore, though, because the regular people of Idaho didn’t put up with the Aryan nation mentality.

No, it’s not. The skinheads who tried to get established in Idaho ( and didn’t succeed BTW) originally moved there from Los Angeles, CA.

This is all evidence that the idea that Nazis are a genuine threat to be reckoned with in America is complete garbage.

Today, active racists are shunned out of civil society.

 

[sun rise]

Today, active racists are shunned out of civil society.

The OP story was one example where there is no shunning and the attacks on Haitians with approval from Trump is another. I can easily find hundreds of stories about racist cops, racist people such as America's struggle with racism, as told by immigrants

 

[Soandso]

No, it’s not. The skinheads who tried to get established in Idaho ( and didn’t succeed BTW) originally moved there from Los Angeles, CA.

Yah, nah. I've talked to plenty of people who moved here from Idaho and those white nationalists are still very much there. I've also gone through there on a road trip to Utah during COVID and saw for myself that white nationalism is still very much alive and well there

You're right that literal skinheads themselves are a dated concept, but neonazism and white nationalism are still alive and well there from what I've seen and heard

 

[Argentbear]

Yes?

That's what I said.

It doesn't nullify my subsequent point.

Your point being that the ongoing problems of discrimination in our society are not problems at all...just things social justice warriors go looking for to cause trouble rather than being satisfied with what they have.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

They don't.

Oh, we must have imagined this one, then.

This particular rally was way back in 2017 protesting the removal of the statue of the General Lee in a time arguably where the left wing was far more violent and destructive that the protesters seen here.

They were marching through the streets with torches at night chanting "Jews will not replace us", and during the day marched around with Neo-Nazi flags.

And yes I defend even racists and bigots and their right to protest in a free country as long as it dosent end in riots, looting, and death in no particular order.

So, to be clear, these things DO happen, and you defend them happening.

Good to know.

 

[Twilight Hue]

This is all evidence that the idea that Nazis are a genuine threat to be reckoned with in America is complete garbage.

Today, active racists are shunned out of civil society.

Precisely and they are actively prosecuted if violence occurs.

However the left is given a free hand whenever violence occurs with their groups particularly the Marxist movement of BLM where they were essentially allowed to take over and essentially destroy government buildings , yet they accuse the right of things like Insurrection and such which is essentially the same thing.