Texas - Terrible abortion law doing what Republicans said it wouldn't do

[Quintessence]

The government isn't the problem.

Sure. The problem is evil. Unrepentant, blatantly misogynistic evil.

 

[Revoltingest]

Since I am not a Christian I am not responsible for Christian based issues.

Of course you're not responsible for others.
But the issue involves a whole lotta religion.

 

[Shaul]

What in your opinion was the problem? Do you think she made a mistake in trying to have another child with her husband? Does that decision make her guilty of something? Is there some reason she should suffer?

Is there a problem? She chose to get pregnant and now doesn't like a natural consequence she didn't consider or chose to ignore. Is she suffering? How she chooses to respond and react to conditions is not a "problem". It is a choice. She has options. It is simply true that a sanction for an abortion for the justifications she has given is contrary to law and isn't a viable one. But there are options.

 

[Orbit]

You are arguing contrary to the facts in evidence and a hypothetical case. The baby inside her isn't dead.

What? She has been to the ER 4 times with pain and discharge. Her doctor says she needs an abortion now, and if she cannot get one, it will jeopardize her ability to have children in the future.

 

[fantome profane]

Is there a problem? She chose to get pregnant and now doesn't like a natural consequence she didn't consider or chose to ignore. Is she suffering? How she chooses to respond and react to conditions is not a "problem". It is a choice. She has options. It is simply true that a sanction for an abortion for the justifications she has given is contrary to law and isn't a viable one. But there are options.

Yes she is suffering, greatly. Physically and emotionally. Do you care?

And what "options" are you referring to?

 

[F1fan]

Every case of pregnancy involves having sex.

Wow, look who paid attention during high school sex ed.

The laws don't put women at risk, the pregnancies do.

Just as God created, eh?

And the indications are that in this case the woman got pregnant by volition. She is free to have an abortion so long as she doesn't take the life of the baby in the process.

She got pregnant wanting to have anther child, and the development has a defect. The Texas law is interfering with her getting medical treatment. Guess what, not all pregnancies are perfect, as you acknowledge. Soy why the laws that interfere with medical treatment?

This lawsuit is about trying to legislate from the court bench.

False, it is about a woman getting emergency medical treatment. Texas is refusing her request.

The Texas laws don't provide for abortions under the reasons she petition to the court. The judge knows this and the ruling is not supported by the law. The plaintive is free to petition a court with a valid case.

As has been reported there are five different laws and the are all so vague that even the courts have no idea how to rule except humanely.

 

[Revoltingest]

What? She has been to the ER 4 times with pain and discharge. Her doctor says she needs an abortion now, and if she cannot get one, it will jeopardize her ability to have children in the future.

But the fetus might live & the mother
will likely survive, albeit unable to have
children again. Good enuf for Texas.

 

[fantome profane]

But the fetus might live & the mother
will likely survive, albeit unable to have
children again. Good enuf for Texas.

More likely that the fetus will die, and the Mother, if she survives, would be rendered infertile.

 

[F1fan]

She made the decision to get pregnant. She did that by her own free will. She made the decision to petition the court using a basis that was legally insufficient. The government isn't the problem.

She didn't make the decision to have a fetus that has fatal defects. Now the right wing government is the problem.

 

[Shaul]

What? She has been to the ER 4 times with pain and discharge. Her doctor says she needs an abortion now, and if she cannot get one, it will jeopardize her ability to have children in the future.

And yet she didn't seek threat to her life as the basis for her petition to get an abortion. And she is still free to do so. Until she does you are arguing a different case.

 

[Shaul]

Yes she is suffering, greatly. Physically and emotionally. Do you care?

And what "options" are you referring to?

Do you? She has options of actions and options in attitudes. She could accept and embrace her pregnancies despite the perils, or not. She could petition from the court based on legally viable criteria, or not. She could choose to get an abortion without the sanction of Texas, or not. There are many, many, many options she has. I wasn't referring to any particular options. Not the ones I have just mentioned nor any others. Now why are you only choosing to focus on the one option of her getting an abortion within a safe harbor of Texas law despite her petition not qualifying?

 

[The Hammer]

I just had to watch my wife almost die from her pregnancy complications and y'all are over here arguing ****ing semantics over a nigh dead fetus.

 

[fantome profane]

Do you? She has options of actions and options in attitudes. She could accept and embrace her pregnancies despite the perils, or not. She could petition from the court based on legally viable criteria, or not. She could choose to get an abortion without the sanction of Texas, or not. There are many, many, many options she has. I wasn't referring to any particular options. Not the ones I have just mentioned nor any others. Now why are you only choosing to focus on the one option of her getting an abortion within a safe harbor of Texas law despite her petition not qualifying?

I am focusing on the option her doctors recommended, and the option she chose.

So you are saying she can suck it up and do what the men tell her like a good girl, or she can get out of Texas, or maybe get an illegal backroom abortion, you think those are better options?

 

[Shaul]

I am focusing on the option her doctors recommended, and the option she chose.

So you are saying she can suck it up and do what the men tell her like a good girl, or she can get out of Texas, or maybe get an illegal backroom abortion, you think those are better options?

You are focusing on demanding an option that is contrary to law. I'm decidedly NOT suggesting what she should choose to do. But I do suggest you not make further attempts to put words in my mouth though. To do so is pointless.

 

[Orbit]

You are focusing on demanding an option that is contrary to law. I'm decidedly NOT suggesting what she should choose to do. But I do suggest you not make further attempts to put words in my mouth though. To do so is pointless.

This should not be a matter for lawyers. This is a matter for doctors.

 

[fantome profane]

You are focusing on demanding an option that is contrary to law. I'm decidedly NOT suggesting what she should choose to do. But I do suggest you not make further attempts to put words in my mouth though. To do so is pointless.

I paraphrased you, but that is what you said. Those are the options you think she has. Your post was arrogant, misogynistic, and thoroughly disgusting.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Needn't mention the obvious.
The extreme anti-abortion view is
largely entirely a fundie Christian one....*

*...Judaism, Islam, & atheism are all more
open to abortion rights.

Yes, but Judaism and Islam are also rife with misogyny and that's what the claim regarding Abrahamic religions stated.

 

[Agent Smith]

Where I am we do urine pregnancy tests and the report kinda looks like this:

PARASITOLOGY
Pregnancy Test: POS(itive)

Nothing like a positive parasitology test to lift the spirits to new heights.

God is in his heaven and all is well with the world!

Sit venia verbo, Deus Magnus est

 

[Shaul]

This should not be a matter for lawyers. This is a matter for doctors.

So you think the judge was wrong.

 

[Altfish]

Only with you.

I won't take it personally.