The Law Is Often Not About Preventing Crime, But Rather Just Punishing People

[setarcos]

People have severe shortcomings.
But the resulting government is the thing that ***** us over.

I'd venture to say that you are not wrong here given our current situation.
I would add though that the government we have now is a result of WE the people and the amazing amount of ethical and moral indifference, educational laziness and tolerance of ineptitude is what is actually continuing to **** ourselves over.
Society in general has painted itself into a corner of corruption, hatred, bigotry, racism, intolerance, and moral/ethical relativity. We reap what we sow and there is no easy solution to the problem as long as we continue to be so divergent in our conceptions of what path is the good path to take. Most people can't even have a civil discussion about their differing beliefs anymore.
On the bright side though, we seem to have improved our technological prowess which we can use to create deadlier ways of killing and exploiting each other all while at the same time given us the verisimilitude of increasing our comfort and well being.
I try to be a better person daily and hope that reflects in my actions. That's all I can do at this point. I have no hope for the future of mankind's governance of itself let alone the ultimate survival of the species. Not because I can see no method of governance that should work but because even those methods inevitably become corrupted given the current state of human nature.
I place my hope in my religion. If that does nothing else it at least keeps me sane in this wandering earth of warped warrens of wickedness.

 

[Revoltingest]

I'd venture to say that you are not wrong here given our current situation.
I would add though that the government we have now is a result of WE the people and the amazing amount of ethical and moral indifference, educational laziness and tolerance of ineptitude is what is actually continuing to **** ourselves over.
Society in general has painted itself into a corner of corruption, hatred, bigotry, racism, intolerance, and moral/ethical relativity. We reap what we sow and there is no easy solution to the problem as long as we continue to be so divergent in our conceptions of what path is the good path to take. Most people can't even have a civil discussion about their differing beliefs anymore.
On the bright side though, we seem to have improved our technological prowess which we can use to create deadlier ways of killing and exploiting each other all while at the same time given us the verisimilitude of increasing our comfort and well being.
I try to be a better person daily and hope that reflects in my actions. That's all I can do at this point. I have no hope for the future of mankind's governance of itself let alone the ultimate survival of the species. Not because I can see no method of governance that should work but because even those methods inevitably become corrupted given the current state of human nature.
I place my hope in my religion. If that does nothing else it at least keeps me sane in this wandering earth of warped warrens of wickedness.

You place your hope in religion.
Which one?
All the major ones try their best to **** us over.

 

[setarcos]

It's your view of the whole thing that I find racist.
Posting a video of people of varying skin tones breaking into a business doesn't demonstrate that black people are shoplifters, by nature and/or that they're more likely than other people with different skin tones to get away with shop lifting.

I'm thinking racism, particularly against blacks, has become self perpetuating. From what I've witnessed in rallies, videos, the news and other media there seems to be as many if not more white people directly fighting for black rights and equality than there is blacks. Yet quite often blacks seem to seek to want to vilify and alienate those very same whites that are fighting for them. The black majority "seems" to be fighting -not for equality - but for superiority and revenge. They "seem" to be seeking the same status they are claiming to fight against.
Its getting real hard to continue to be an ally when what I see from them is a constant ignoring or exploitation of the facts.
For instance...whites didn't "invent" slavery. There is an argument to be made that historical evidence shows that persons of the "darker" tones of skin color were the first slave owners, not whites. There is currently active slavery being practiced by certain black societies in Africa. Not to mention whites didn't just pop over to Africa and start kidnapping blacks. They often made deals with the blacks who were there and were willing to sell their own into slavery. And the terrible, terrible conditions those slaves were subject to on the boat rides over which caused many of their deaths is absolutely abhorrent its true but what is never mentioned is that the slave traders themselves often suffered more casualties than the slaves.
Racism has become more of an excuse for bad behavior rather than a righteous call for equality.

 

[setarcos]

You place your hope in religion.
Which one?
All the major ones try their best to **** us over.

Again...you place blame on the institution rather than yourself as a member of a ****ed up society.
We should work on straightening ourselves up at least as hard as we work to denigrate and blame any other thing but ourselves for our own ****ed up situations.
I placed my hope in Christianity. I find Christianity the most compatible for me with what I experience of reality versus what it teaches.

 

[Revoltingest]

Again...you place blame on the institution rather than yourself as a member of a ****ed up society.

You focus on blame.
I differ in that I look at causes of woe.

We should work on straightening ourselves up at least as hard as we work to denigrate and blame any other thing but ourselves for our own ****ed up situations.
I placed my hope in Christianity. I find Christianity the most compatible for me with what I experience of reality versus what it teaches.

Christianity is currently assisting Israel committing
genocide. It's also the driving force behind Trump.
And opposing bodily autonomy. And opposing
gay marriage.
A poor choice it is.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Christianity is currently assisting Israel committing
genocide. It's also the driving force behind Trump.
And opposing bodily autonomy.
A poor choice.

Christian Nationalism is a great danger amd threat to America.

 

[Revoltingest]

Christian Nationalism is a great danger amd threat to America.

Yes, my list wasn't exhaustive.
Add to it the belief that the President
can have the military kill political foes.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Yes, my list wasn't exhaustive.
Add to it the belief that the President
can have the military kill political foes.

That's not Christian, just good ole fashioned wicked tyranny.

 

[Revoltingest]

That's not Christian, just good ole fashioned wicked tyranny.

Christianity is what Christianity does.
While political assassination isn't fundamental
to the faith, they've embraced approval of it
because of Trump, whom they (many) believe
to have been chosen by God.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Christianity is what Christianity does.
While political assassination isn't fundamental
to the faith, they've embraced approval of it
because of Trump, whom they (many) believe
to have been chosen by God.

And that one makes no sense. He literally said he's done nothing to seek Jehovah or Christ forgiveness. That means he isn't a Christian and is as directly opposed to Christianity as those like me, someone who left the Church and became Luciferian and proclaimed myself sinless as you have to be a Christian in order to sin.

 

[Revoltingest]

And that one makes no sense. He literally said he's done nothing to seek Jehovah or Christ forgiveness. That means he isn't a Christian and is as directly opposed to Christianity as those like me, someone who left the Church and became Luciferian and proclaimed myself sinless as you have to be a Christian in order to sin.

To be a Christian he need only believe
that Jesus is his Savior. This allows for any
morality, without him losing his religion.

 

[Laniakea]

I've watched many such videos.
It is indeed true that blacks are over-represented
in these smash & grabs. But we must be cautious
about what meaning we glean from this.
Note also that it appears to be more about age
(ie, the young) than race. This would be something
more addressable by better public policies.

Do you believe that black people commit crimes in order to "represent" their skin color? Personally, I think it's more about acquiring merchandise for free.

 

[Laniakea]

Christian Nationalism is a great danger amd threat to America.

Can you point out any examples? Because I can point out plenty where materialism and Islamism along with Communism, socialism and Marxism have cost millions of lives, and have caused the collapse of nations.

 

[Revoltingest]

Do you believe that black people commit crimes in order to "represent" their skin color?

No.
Odd question.

 

[Laniakea]

No.
Odd question.

Then what did you mean by saying they are "over represented". They were either there or they weren't. The video shows they were.

 

[Revoltingest]

Then what did you mean by saying they are "over represented".

In numbers greater than their
fraction of the general population.

 

[Laniakea]

In a numbers greater than their
fraction of the general population.

They sure over represent themselves a lot, using that definition.
However, the main thing to recognize is that they represent the majority of those who are doing those activities.

 

[Revoltingest]

They sure over represent themselves a lot, using that definition.
However, the main thing to recognize is that they represent the majority of those who are doing those activities.

How do you think that info
should be acted upon?

 

[Laniakea]

How do you think that info
should be acted upon?

By arresting the perpetrators, even if most of them are black.

 

[Revoltingest]

By arresting the perpetrators, even if most of them are black.

If you mean arresting all the perps,
that would include races other than
black. So why does it matter that
most are black?