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    Mormon Fundamentalism: Blacks & the Priesthood

    eta: deleted my own post because I shouldn't be hanging out here
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    Smoking, drinking and Socialized healthcare.

    I think I understood your point even without your reply explaining it. I think you have asked a perfectly valid question. Reminds me of a debate I had in college regarding mandatory motorcycle helmet laws. I was in favor of the law because if some guy splatters his noodle on the pavement...
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    Why Dont Christians Accept the Book of Mormon as Valid?

    // english accent on Dead.Spot.On Rick ole chap... BRILLIANT // english accent off I'm not being sarcastic.
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    Joseph Smith - Prophet of God

    Do you know when the video was produced? I think it was about 30 years ago, I recall hearing alot of excitement about the discovery of dead sea scrolls. I was invited to a presentation but I don't remember anything. Does any of this ring any bells? Has the church put that archaeology video...
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    Why Dont Christians Accept the Book of Mormon as Valid?

    Thank you for the warm welcome Scott1. You wrote: "but we believe that those who die for the faith, those who are catechumens (students), and all those who, without knowing of the Church but acting under the inspiration of grace, seek God sincerely and strive to fulfill his will, can be...
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    "Should we respect religions and the religious?"

    Do you respect the idea of self-righteous emotionalism?
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    Joseph Smith - Prophet of God

    True enough, from the LDS point of view, no quarrel. But tell me, if a scientist did join the church based on physical studies, would you not use that fact to support the Book of Mormon from a scientific point view? What KingM suggested is that the Book of Mormon would be more compelling from an...
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    Joseph Smith - Prophet of God

    Hi Katzpur, No offense taken (ps, I have a warm spot in my heart for you because I know how kids can break your heart) I was winking at becky when she said "Sandra Tanner is just as biased (if not more) as [Nibley] is." It was more playful than anything when I said "agreed" in response to...
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    "Should we respect religions and the religious?"

    Wow, that is a phenomenal claim. And it is outrageous (*oh look dear, there goes that emotional woman on her tirade again, she said *outrageous*. Isn't that sad, so sad .... oh, if only everybody was a spiritual eunuch like me*). How on earth can you equate the pain produced by self-righteous...
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    Joseph Smith - Prophet of God

    It is tricky picking the right resource when challenging lds on their beliefs. For many, the challenge alone is suspect. I can't think of one debate I've had with non-believers and lds believers where there wasn't somebody questioning *why* the debate. It doesn't take much to invoke the...
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    What Do You Love More?

    :ctr: Cleverly Teased Response :baseball:HOMERUN! :hugkiss: I want you to have my babies (metaphorically speaking) How do I turn off the *gushing* feature on my keyboard? "Why be prejudiced against anyone because of their race or nationality or creed... when there're so many real...
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    Joseph Smith - Prophet of God

    Agreed, Mormons and non Mormons should not use Nibley or Tanner as a resource.;)
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    "Should we respect religions and the religious?"

    We have been talking about respecting *peoples* idea, we are not talking about ideas in themselves. If the idea of killing someone resides in the mind of a jilted lover, the idea isn't harmless. Ideas are what gets the ball rolling and if you have a bad idea, like killing your cheating...
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    "Should we respect religions and the religious?"

    Society has already determined that they don’t accept these ideas, pedophillia & murder, as having value and deserving respect. I recommend not being so open minded that your brains fall out. Usually I get frustrated with rubber-neckers at a train wreck, but I must say, I would love to...
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    Smoking, drinking and Socialized healthcare.

    Hmmm, I wonder if having a disproportionate number of kids would be an unfair burden on the proposed system. Maybe the greater number of kids increases the chances of producing a child with a severe genetic defect that weighs heavily on the system for the lifetime of the child. Perhaps we can...
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    "Should we respect religions and the religious?"

    Thank you for hanging in there with me as long as you did. There are examples on RF where somebody has demonstrated to me that my ideas were wrong and I have reversed my thinking. My ears are not always closed. I'm wondering if one of our major disagreements is whether or not truth exists...
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    Why Dont Christians Accept the Book of Mormon as Valid?

    Oh, right, I remember this now. For many non-LDS Christians it is a matter of how Christ is described. The other thing that comes to mind is the whole bit about grace, that is, as I recall, a huge sticking point with folks born-again. Here's a question for ya. Actually, this might be a better...
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    Why Dont Christians Accept the Book of Mormon as Valid?

    Is DS really saying that? Or maybe I should ask, is that really official LDS doctrine? Don't get really mad at me, I have hardly followed along this thread, so I might be sticking my foot in my mouth. It was my understanding that mormons follow the teachings of christ because they believe...
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