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  1. ThereIsNoSpoon

    is the quran from God ?

    You missed my point! My point is that Adam Deen is not really one who knows much about what he talks about. Islamic scholars of old age were far better in their rethoric. [/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] We had that discussion already. You again miss the point. It is not ME who started a thread...
  2. ThereIsNoSpoon

    is the quran from God ?

    but all failed until suddenly the third class presenter Adam Deen came along to enlighten us all? Come on. Read some classical arabic scholars at least. They might also be wrong but at least they do not openly admit it through every sentence they utter. I wonder why nowadays every fool thinks...
  3. ThereIsNoSpoon

    EVOLUTION, what a lie.

    I haven't "failed" i simply didn't do it. As i explained already, EVEN if there was a "conclusively prooven" creator it wouldnt help any theist really. Not with the arguments you bring forth. If you have any other thing in mind with your concept then please point me to it and tell me what you...
  4. ThereIsNoSpoon

    EVOLUTION, what a lie.

    Well you might call the first cause of the big bang (if ONE cause existed at all) whatever you want. If however you call it by name of something that already means something else, then you are dishonest. The term "God" is normally not understood as a physical thing that triggered the big bang...
  5. ThereIsNoSpoon

    Mickiel's proof of God.

    Because he is a troll.
  6. ThereIsNoSpoon

    Mickiel's proof of God.

    Look at that chain of "arguments" 1) Everything is proof of god (postulation) 2) he made everything (postulation) 3) thus all things are proof of him (conclusion) One can summarize that: it is so, thus so it is. Now that level of "logical arguments" is not really one that you should aspire to...
  7. ThereIsNoSpoon

    Spin-off from "I am a Christian/Catholic..." thread

    But that exactly was my argument. You see there are quite a lot of people that think they can merge their belief with the idea that homosexuality is not a sin. And while you with your particular interpretation of judaism might think they are wrong, they claim to be followers of judaism as well...
  8. ThereIsNoSpoon

    Spin-off from "I am a Christian/Catholic..." thread

    Well, religion is widely interpretable ;)
  9. ThereIsNoSpoon

    The ToE and common ancestry of all life forms did not come from looking at the evidence

    Why should they give up on it? You have not presented any alternative nor have you answered some importan tquestions
  10. ThereIsNoSpoon

    To any Atheists, I Have a Few Scenarios for you to Look At.

    I think i deserve a longer and better response DarkSun. One which adresses the points i made.
  11. ThereIsNoSpoon

    Which religion offers the right path to God?

    Would you please stick to the argument that you had made before. You wanted to compare things. So do it and accept the result.
  12. ThereIsNoSpoon

    The Koran is the Word of God? How do we know this?

    Well why do we ask? I for once have a simple problem. I am interested in facts and truth. Especially when it comes to a matter so "important" like religion. Supposed one religion is true and if you dont believe it you end up in an eternal hell. Is then the question whether this or that religion...
  13. ThereIsNoSpoon

    The Koran is the Word of God? How do we know this?

    You are mistaken. It was not me who posted here first about supposed correctness of Quran and Islam trying to "convince" people. It was you :) What you believe in is not relevant for me. Thats your choice and i see no sense in trying to convince you of something you wont ever be convinced...
  14. ThereIsNoSpoon

    Mickiel's proof of God.

    If everything has a beginning then God has one too. If God has none, then not everything has one. If god is "the" beginning (which is an abstract term) then he is no "being". If he is a being, then he is no abstract term like beginning or end.
  15. ThereIsNoSpoon

    Mickiel's proof of God.

    ...all evidence against God is proof of God, everything is proof of God, nothingness is proof of god, bagels are proof of God. :facepalm:
  16. ThereIsNoSpoon

    Creationism in the Classroom - Research Project

    Well then perhaps it is a "terminology"-thing. What you call "truth" i would call "opinion".
  17. ThereIsNoSpoon

    Creationism in the Classroom - Research Project

    I do not know if you know the quarrel between the absolutionist and the relativationist. A) All is absolute B) All is relative A) No there are things that are absolute B) NO there are no such things ! A) Are you sure ? B) ABSOLUTELY ! :)
  18. ThereIsNoSpoon

    Creationism in the Classroom - Research Project

    Ok, let me try it differently then. i think you didnt get my point. Lets suppose that as you state truth and untruth is subjective. If so then there exist no absolute truth and no absolute untruth. "I exist" then (i guess) you would call a fact and not a truth? My claim now is actually very...
  19. ThereIsNoSpoon

    Sexuality and Choice...

    Why shouldnt I? I do not think that we had any quarrel or did we? We disagree perhaps but i did not see any idiotic remarks on your side. Instead i think it was a rather liberal fair balanced approach within the topic of disagreement. That should be mentioned in this board as it is not the rule...
  20. ThereIsNoSpoon

    Spin-off from "I am a Christian/Catholic..." thread

    Well not sooooo clear it seems. One might also say .. the ways of interpretation are unknowable;)
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