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  1. J

    Abraham Father of Many Nations

    Islam is considered the Noachide covenant. Jew refers to a subset- those who lived in the kingdom of Judea after the Israelites came out of Egypt and followed the Mosaic covenant. So strictly speaking, there were no Jews in the days of Abraham, they were all following the Noachide back then
  2. J

    Abraham Father of Many Nations

    Yeah, but you do realize that the both the Ottoman and the Roman empires were ruled from the same city Constantinople in modern Turkey?
  3. J

    Abraham Father of Many Nations

    I guess that could create an interesting metaphorical interpretation of the Bible. Although it seems like a convenient ploy to steal someone's inheritance. It doesn't sound wise at all. In the Bible we consistently see how the Hebrew word Zara strong 2233 is translated as seed and used to...
  4. J

    Abraham Father of Many Nations

    I don't understand why sometimes religious Christians are itching to see wars and all this doom and gloom. Why can't they be happy that Israel has returned to its ancestral land and may play a constructive role as a light to all nations? I think that with some of these recent discoveries by...
  5. J

    Abraham Father of Many Nations

    The discussion is about Abraham being the father of many nations. You are obviously trying to make it sound like the promise was to make these nations spiritually the children of Abraham. I think the promise was both of a physical and spiritual nature . Now we can see that Israelite DNA has...
  6. J

    Abraham Father of Many Nations

    I'm not denying an Israelite is a descendant of Israel (Jacob) or his covenant The Bible in Isaiah 19 says that the Egyptians will be given a savior who will build a temple in Egypt. Did you miss that verse? It says the Egyptians, Assyrians and Israelites will come together. Did you miss that...
  7. J

    Abraham Father of Many Nations

    I don't know what you mean. Are you saying Onias IV was not an Israelite descendant of Jacobs line?
  8. J

    Abraham Father of Many Nations

    You will have to be more specific which point haven't I addressed? I have explained how we find Israelite DNA. Also why reasonable people can believe the Koresh are patrilineal descendants of Israelites (specifically Onias IV) and matrilineal descendants of Ishmaelites.
  9. J

    Abraham Father of Many Nations

    As I explained earlier Onias IV was the descendant of Joshua son of Jehozadak, the high priest. He was booted from the temple in Jerusalem and went and established another temple in Leontopolis in Egypt as well as other temples around Egypt to fulfill Isaiah 19. Perhaps you should read Isaiah 19...
  10. J

    Abraham Father of Many Nations

    If you look at my name, it is an abbreviation for J2 Haplogroup Y DNA (J2 Hap Y DNA). That is my name because I was a participant in the National Geographic study conducted by Spencer Wells - author of the book and host of the PBS program Journey of Man where I discovered I was a descendant of...
  11. J

    Abraham Father of Many Nations

    The Y DNA of all and every male human has polymorphisms that date back just a few generations to those from our earliest ancestors who lived between 70k to 350k ybp. Reading that article on wiki will not familiarize you with the science. This is why I suggested at least reading the book to begin...
  12. J

    Abraham Father of Many Nations

    This is a common practice in the Bible of calling people names. For example the Jews and Israel are described as harlots. Europeans were I think dogs etc. It doesn't mean much. In this case, fighting everyone meant he wasn't going to be anybody's slave. So she cheers up and heads back. The...
  13. J

    Abraham Father of Many Nations

    There is significant scientific PROOF that Jews and Arabs in general share a MOST RECENT COMMON PATERNAL ANCESTOR in the 1k - 5k years ago range. Perhaps, before making such ignorant statements you should study human evolutionary genetics from a book such as The Journey of Man - Wikipedia...
  14. J

    "Religion of Peace?"

    As the link to the Washington Post says: Yes I agree, the constitution is important. However, if a large percentage of a population thinks someone is not an American regardless of what is in the constitution, and if these people control the state legislative, judicial, law enforcement and...
  15. J

    "Religion of Peace?"

    Please explain where does it say the Arabs waged jihad on Ethiopia, conquered it and forced the Christian s to pay Jizya etc?
  16. J

    "Religion of Peace?"

    It was retaliation for an attack on port Shuayba by an Ethiopian fleet as well as other attacks. However, there never was a full scale Jihad invasion of the Axumite empire, even after the conquest of Egypt, Jordan, Israel, modern day Iraq and Iran and after the Arabs controlled the seas...
  17. J

    "Religion of Peace?"

    Yep it is tuff with so much broken glass on one side and hypocrites who pay those who break the glass and laugh at those who dance
  18. J

    "Religion of Peace?"

    Second period as in the time in which the second section of the Quran was revealed:
  19. J

    "Religion of Peace?"

    I have a reputation of dancing this way from a long time before the west went to bed with the Mujahideen. I have side stepped more broken glass than you can imagine.
  20. J

    "Religion of Peace?"

    Wrong Actually, during the second period the Arabs didn't attack the Axumite Empire or wage jihad on them. MP had explicitly forbidden waging jihad on them. It is only the parties that continued to practice extremism that were subjected to violence. So your analysis is faulty.
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