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  1. Spockrates

    Wondering About Forgiveness

    ....he also said he hoped to soon meet again. [emoji4]
  2. Spockrates

    Wondering About Forgiveness

    I'd say life has value, but some life is more valuable--and hence more worth living--than other life. Even many who believe in reincarnation are of the opinion that it would be better to be reincarnated as a great spiritual leader than as a fat cow. So Socrates affirmed his belief in...
  3. Spockrates

    Wondering About Forgiveness

    Perhaps I aspire to be logical like Spock, but I try to do a good Socrates. I'm nowhere near being like either one I try to imitate, but thanks for acknowledging my effort.
  4. Spockrates

    Wondering About Forgiveness

    Well, it seems I have offended you in some way. It would help if you let me know if I have.
  5. Spockrates

    Wondering About Forgiveness

    Please don't think I was playing gotcha with Acin. I'm sincerely merely try to understand.
  6. Spockrates

    Wondering About Forgiveness

    How so? Will you give an example?
  7. Spockrates

    Wondering About Forgiveness

    I'd say definition (8) is what I meant. We started our relationship well, I think. I'd like to know what I might do to return to what I lost.
  8. Spockrates

    Wondering About Forgiveness

    Well, it's virtual, not wooden. But point taken. So it seems you'd agree with Sakeenah. You forgive me by not holding a grudge, but reconciliation is out of the question. Or is there something I might do to restore my relationship with you?
  9. Spockrates

    Wondering About Forgiveness

    I have a nickel. May I have some advice?
  10. Spockrates

    Wondering About Forgiveness

    Thank you for joining the conversation. [emoji4] I appreciate your explanation. Interesting how the prophet appears to state there is a one-to-one correspondence between forgiving and being forgiven. Also you mentioned: "- I believe forgiving means not carrying a grudge in your heart for...
  11. Spockrates

    Wondering About Forgiveness

    You seem to have some familiarity with the biblical texts, so you might also appreciate how this passage enhances the theological discussion: "Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you." (Ephesians 4:32) Would you say the author is correct in...
  12. Spockrates

    Wondering About Forgiveness

    Your insight is welcome. [emoji4] I appreciate the concise definition of forgiveness. If one defines Maara as merely a shared opinion, then I'd say, no. For an opinion cannot act apart from the one who thinks it. But I'm ignorant of Maara. So what do I know? I'm interested in seriously...
  13. Spockrates

    Wondering About Forgiveness

    Hi Acim. Yes, thanks for pointing out my error. It would have been more accurate to say I have some ideas what forgiveness is, but these ideas are contradictory. So I am uncertain which of them is correct. Let me know if you desire further explanation. Not sure I understand. Are you saying...
  14. Spockrates

    Wondering About Forgiveness

    "Curiouser and curiouser," said Alex. Please explain why you don't agree.
  15. Spockrates

    Wondering About Forgiveness

    No, your attention was correct. I edited the comment after you replied. [emoji4]
  16. Spockrates

    Wondering About Forgiveness

    Sorry, typo. It's unexamined life. I'd define it as a life one lives without giving much thought to wether one is living as one should.
  17. Spockrates

    Wondering About Forgiveness

    Well, there are people who say Socrates was a fictional character, but does that mean every idea attributed to him is not worthy of considering? (I'm not accusing, as I don't know what you believe about the things taught by Jesus.)
  18. Spockrates

    Wondering About Forgiveness

    Perhaps, but I don't think we should be quick to judge. Maybe in Allfoak's culture, his remarks would not be taken as seriously accusing me of a psychological disorder. As I said to Allfoak, there must be some language barrier. Yes, but the same scripture that says, Proverbs 3:5-6 Trust in...
  19. Spockrates

    Wondering About Forgiveness

    Forgive me if I misunderstood. Maybe there is some language barrier? I thought you said you were seriously questioning whether I was a sociopath.
  20. Spockrates

    Wondering About Forgiveness

    But my friend, is it enough for you and I to want to want to forgive, if we are uncertain what forgiveness is? Recall the words of Jesus you earlier quoted to me: 14 "For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not...
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